Teasealot wrote:Aren\'t you forgetting the wonderful item called DEFENDER missiles, and what use are missiles against someone whose skills have their railguns outdistance any missile?
And isn\'t his choice what weapons he uses? What ship he uses? Are you paying his £14.99 a month? I use a Drake so I\'m good with missiles, but I\'m still training my railgun skills in case I need them for a ship that\'s mainly a gun platform. And there are missions out there that a missile boat is useless for. I know, I\'ve done some of them.
Arg, ninja edits!
Yeah, it IS entirely up to him what he spends it on, I wasn't telling him to DO anything. I was giving my opinion, which is different.
As far as missions go, I have not yet found a mission a missile boat cannot do. I actually nerfed my own tank recently, in order to put out a little more damage, to complete them FASTER than I was doing. I can run through Worlds Collide in around 35 - 40 minutes. I dont need to get into optimal, with a TP, transversal and target speed is irrelevent. I can kill Angel Spies with cruise missiles FFS. And my skills are NOT awesome by any means. I DID however start out in Megathrons, which are generally recognized as 'decent' mission boats.
I hated getting into range. I loathed having to swap ammo for frigates. I detested running out of capacitor!
The rokh has all those problems in missions, with only the slight benefit of being a shield tanker, so unless it drops to armor, its self repairing.
But you put any active/boost tank on a rokh, and it will suffer BADLY.
And while, YES you CAN fit minnie guns on a rokh... why would you? Apart from the once off surprise attack? You are NOT going to hit anything that moves without heavily nerfing your tank. Like, you will HAVE to be loaded with boosters and scripts just to dink my paintjob, and meanwhile, your ship will be falling apart!
THAT SAID! I am no great expert on PVP. I would be in a HAC or something just to be a git. Maybe even an AF.
I was looking at it purely in terms of its ability to do Level 4 missions.
A Drake has the most amazing tank of any shield ship, properly skilled and fitted. Understand however, NO battleship can tank like a Drake. (The Domi comes close though, but thats an armor boat). The drake will do MOST lvl4's, but ONLY uses Heavy Missiles. It takes FOREVER to do missions like that, and some are actually impossible.
A Raven, or a CNR (Which is what I mission in), uses Cruise or Siege launchers. There is NO comparison between Heavy and Cruise. Other than, a 7 launcher CNR can easily kill ANY NPC battleship in under 6 volleys with the right skills and damage type loaded.
Guns of ANY sort are reliant on range, falloff, damage types, transversal... Unless you have high speed, short range guns, you are NOT going to get the best out of a gunboat. And sorry to say, very VERY few missions give you the oppertunity to get to a comfortable optimal range.
A missile boat has the luxury of being able to sit put, tank the room, and pop everything it sees, at any range. A gunboat HAS to move, even is only to kill the frigates buzzing around. Unless you have drones to take them down, you are NOT killing those.
I can fly everything up to Battleships across Minmatar, Caldari and Gallente. I have flow the tier 2 and 3 battleships from all three races, with optimal mission fits for each. And in terms of actual, practical experience, a bog standard Raven with Cruises is the most efficient mission runner. The Dominix comes close, and may even be better, but I didnt have top drone skills at that time. (Tech 1 only. The undisputed BEST missionrunner is the Torp Golem)
The big, tier 3 battleships... just are not as good.
If however, you want to USE one, I'm not going to browbeat you into not using one.
I'm just saying, I would rather be in a Raven.
Sorry, that sorta ran on a bit, but I wanted to be clear.